Bitcoin’s shift from the fringes of finance to center stage was on full display in the latest episode of The CoinRock Show, where host Matthias Mazur opened with an urgent tone.
“This is the ideal time to build,” he said, addressing long-time followers and new listeners alike. With bullish momentum in the market, major updates from state governments, and corporate investment surging, Matthias called the moment “not like previous cycles.”
His guest, Mati Greenspan, founder of Quantum Economics and a former senior analyst at eToro, echoed the sentiment: “This is by far my favorite market cycle to date,” he said. Together, the two dissected how state legislation, institutional capital, and political pressure are setting the stage for long-term structural shifts in the crypto industry.
The United States Rushes to Adopt Bitcoin Legislation
Matthias began the show with a roundup of crypto-related policy moves across the U.S. Arizona advanced two bills — the Strategic Digital Assets Resource Bill and the Bitcoin Reserve Act — both of which are now headed for full floor votes.
Kentucky, meanwhile, signed into law House Bill 701, guaranteeing the right to self-custody, mine Bitcoin, and operate blockchain nodes.
“The fight is very well on,” Matthias said. “This is game theory 101.”
Oklahoma’s House passed its own Strategic Bitcoin Reserve Act, HB103, by a vote of 77 to 15. The momentum across states underscores what Matthias called a “turning point for the state-driven movement to protect digital assets.”
Mati agreed.
“This is what’s been happening,” he said, “and I think Elon Musk really described the problem — the system was set up for complaint minimization.”
Both noted that legacy systems are under pressure from more agile and innovative crypto structures.
Institutional Interest Hits Critical Mass
Matthias pointed to MetaPlanet’s latest $12 million Bitcoin purchase as an example of how institutional participation is deepening. The company now holds 3,350 BTC and is aiming to accumulate 10,000 by the end of the year. “They literally got Eric Trump on their board last week,” he said, adding that firms are adopting “the Michael Saylor playbook.”
“Even conservative countries in Europe are seeing their banks launch Bitcoin products,” Matthias said.
“Retail still isn’t bullish enough compared to how bullish the institutions are.”
For Mati, who spent years inside traditional finance before founding Quantum Economics, this institutional embrace is less of a surprise than a confirmation. “Not because [institutions] are pulling a win out of it,” he said, “but because it globalizes the system and legitimizes it for everybody.”
He recalled his early introduction to Bitcoin at eToro in 2013: “We got an email from the CEO saying, ‘Hey everybody, this is Bitcoin and this is why Bitcoin is awesome.’” Since then, he said, the change has been exponential.
Trump, the Fed, and Market Psychology
The show took a political turn as Matthias analyzed how former President Donald Trump’s rhetoric on tariffs and interest rates could influence the Federal Reserve. “Is Trump forcing the Fed’s hand?” he asked, referencing an article he had published on CoinRock Media.
Matthias emphasized Trump’s ability to thrive under pressure, citing past examples: “I haven’t seen many leaders on Earth that handle pressure as well as Trump does,” he said.
He argued that pressure—whether political, financial, or personal—is an underappreciated factor in both leadership and investment.
“How do you handle a position being down hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars?” he asked. “Do you fold? Do you DCA? That says a lot about the type of leader you are.”
Mati echoed the sentiment, saying that success often comes down to perseverance. “Once you’ve made that go-no-go decision… just keep driving at it every single day,” he said. “Before you know it, success is going to come.”
Quantum Economics and Bitcoin Mining in Texas
Mati also provided updates on Quantum Expeditions, a Bitcoin mining company he co-founded that converts trapped natural gas from oil drilling into off-grid mining operations in Texas. “It’s better for the environment and more profitable for our investors,” he said. “We’re now speaking with several institutional investors.”
He explained how the company utilizes flare gas — a byproduct often wasted during oil extraction — to power Bitcoin mining rigs. “We negotiate a very, very cheap price for it,” he said. “We’re basically doing [the producers] a favor.”
The project is currently raising funds through a regulated crowdfunding offering and plans to enter an institutional round after April 30.
Rethinking the Bitcoin Cycle
Mati challenged the widely held belief that Bitcoin’s price movements are strictly tied to its four-year halving cycle. He argued that the current cycle differs sharply from previous ones, especially because it is not being fueled by massive money printing.
“The halving no longer matters,” he said. “It brought Bitcoin emissions from $60 million a day to $30 million, but the daily trading volume is $3 to $20 billion. So the impact is zero.”
Instead, he believes the long-term cycle resembles the post-2008 bull market. “This bull run is going to last 100 years,” he said. “Yeah, we’ll have pullbacks, but bull markets can last for decades.”
Matthias agreed but warned that traditional crypto investors might not be prepared for the new dynamics. “They don’t understand what it looks like when real market makers are playing the markets,” he said. “This is a different cycle.”
Deregulation, AI, and the Path to Mass Adoption
Both host and guest emphasized the role of deregulation and emerging technologies in shaping crypto’s future. Mati said AI, quantum computing, and biotech will combine with tokenized finance to usher in a new economic era.
“We’re going to 10x the productivity of every professional career,” he said. “What’s that going to do for global GDP?”
Quantum Economics is also developing Cora, an AI-powered wallet assistant designed to simplify DeFi usage. “It’s a wallet that thinks,” he said. “It will help with onboarding, portfolio management, gas fee issues — everything.”
Matthias supported the move, describing MetaMask as “antiquated” and the current wallet experience as a barrier to mainstream adoption. “You click three times and you don’t know why you’re clicking,” he said.
Banks Losing Ground as Tokenization Rises
Mati predicted that all financial assets — including government currencies — would be tokenized. “The U.S. dollar will be tokenized,” he said. “You’ll be able to trace a dollar to its point of origin.”
He added that this change will eliminate systemic risk. “If Wells Fargo messes up, you sell the Wells Fargo dollars and buy JP Morgan dollars,” he said.
This shift, he argued, would diminish the centralized role banks currently play and force them to adapt. “Their function is going to be minimized to a fraction of what it once was,” he said.
Matthias connected this evolution to historical trends. “Remember when the internet came out? The banks that went online first won,” he said. “Same thing is happening here.”
“Everything Will Be Tokenized”
In the final minutes of the show, Matthias asked Mati for his prediction on crypto’s trajectory in the next 6 to 18 months. Mati dismissed short-term price forecasts and pointed instead to the broader transition under way.
“We’re going to a future that is more decentralized and more tokenized,” he said. “Everything that has a ticker — everything that can be traded for money online, including money itself — is going to be traded on the blockchain.”
For Mati, the coming shift is not just financial, but systemic.
“We are on the precipice of a golden age,” he said. “The likes of which can last centuries.”
Know More About Mati Greenspan
You can connect with Mati Greenspan on various social media platforms and explore his work through his official website. Here are his verified profiles:
- Official Website: https://www.qe.finance/team
- X (Twitter): @MatiGreenspan
- LinkedIn: Mati Greenspan on LinkedIn
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