Jun 18, 2025

Chris Kline on Crypto and the Future of Retirement Savings

The week’s episode kicked off on a quiet trading day — but don’t let the flat candles fool you. While Bitcoin cooled just below $110K, and ETH hovered below $2,700, the real action came from the headlines.

Solana sat around $158, but Dogecoin unexpectedly rallied over 6% following a bizarre Musk-Trump truce — after what appears to have been a physical altercation between Elon Musk and Scott Bessant in the White House. Matthias called the drama “kindergarten stuff,” but acknowledged that “anything Trump tweets or does or doesn’t do impacts the market massively.”

Meanwhile, sentiment among institutions continued to rise. A new Senate-backed stablecoin bill gained momentum in the U.S., Fortune 500 executives showed growing interest in tokenized payments, and South Korea moved to license stablecoin issuers — all of which point to rising regulatory clarity.

“Bitcoin sentiment hit a seven-month high,” Matthias noted.

“And even without big price movements, the macro shift is clear.”

Matthias Reviewing the Market Condition

That’s the backdrop we walked into this week’s episode with Chris Kline, the Co-Founder and Chief Operating Officer of Bitcoin IRA — a crypto retirement platform that’s quietly built a $1 billion empire at the intersection of blockchain and long-term investing.

Chris Kline and the Promise of Bitcoin IRAs

Chris Kline didn’t start in crypto — and he didn’t start in finance either. Born and raised in Denver, Colorado, Chris came of age during the 2008 financial crisis, entering the job market at a time when even the best degrees couldn’t guarantee employment. After stints in real estate and alternative asset startups, he became immersed in the world of self-directed IRAs — a corner of finance few understood, but one that offered something rare: control.

I came out of college in the worst time possible 2007-2008 when they weren’t hiring anybody no matter how good your degree was. We were right in the heart of the recession. So started with real estate and IRAs, LLCs and IRAs, private equity, precious metals, all these alternatives,” Chris explained.

That mission deepened as he and his partners recognized the growing retirement crisis in the United States. Corporations were phasing out pensions. 401(k) matches were vanishing. The gig economy had left millions without traditional savings vehicles. And post-COVID inflation had only widened the gap. In Chris’s words: “This isn’t our grandfather’s economy anymore.”

Then in 2015, Bitcoin crossed his desk — and everything changed.

“I’d never heard about it. I had to get orange pilled, go down the rabbit hole,” Chris revealed.

“We went to market a year later after building our solution. It’s a really great program to impact people’s retirement planning.”

What followed was a year of intense development, and in 2016, Bitcoin IRA was born — the first platform to offer U.S. investors a way to hold crypto in tax-advantaged retirement accounts. As Chris tells it, they were early. Too early, maybe. But the demand kept growing.

“I didn’t have gray hair when I started this,” he laughed.

“Now I’ve been through my bears, my bulls — all of it. But we’ve built something real.”

Today, Bitcoin IRA supports over 80 digital assets, provides insured cold storage through BitGo, and has helped process over $2 billion in transactions — all with compliance at the core. For Chris, the mission remains the same: help Americans retire better, using tools that match today’s economic reality.

“It’s a new age way of thinking about savings and investing,” he said.

Building the Future of Retirement

Beyond compliance and custody, Chris emphasized that Bitcoin IRA’s strength comes from its commitment to real people—not just portfolios.

That ethos—rooted in continuity, transparency, and proactive service—is what sets Bitcoin IRA apart from the rotating cast of flashy fintechs. It’s also helped the company remain fully self-funded for nearly a decade. While many crypto startups chase VC funding, Bitcoin IRA has grown on its own terms, prioritizing customer trust over investor hype.

Even as the company scales, Chris is already thinking about the next generation of tools. The recent acquisition of Retired.com marks a leap toward holistic retirement management.

“We launched a Retirement Score Calculator. It’s like a credit score—but for your future,” he explained.

From tracking contributions to rewarding educational activity, it’s a gamified roadmap to long-term financial health.

Tech also plays a role. Chris noted that AI is already being deployed to improve operations—from streamlining communications to verifying customer needs. And while the team is exploring tokenized real estate and other alternative assets, he remains grounded in the mission:

“We want to help Americans retire. And we’re not going to forget our roots.”

But it’s not just retail savers that are paying attention. Institutional interest is rising fast—and this time, Chris believes it’s real.

I’ve watched institutions knocking on my door saying, okay, can we white label this? Can we build this out, et cetera. And then the minute the market turns, they just disappear,” he said.

“This time around, they want to do it.”

He described a clear “race to reserve,” with institutions, family offices, and even nation-states quietly accumulating. At the recent Bitcoin conference in Vegas, Chris noticed more sport coats than ever—a sartorial signal of Wall Street’s growing presence.

Still, he warned that institutional money moves differently:

“They’re not just going to drop $100 million in a day. They do T-Wapping, they spread things out.”

On the regulatory front, Chris was pragmatic. From stablecoins to staking, he sees the groundwork being laid—and those who are ready will thrive.

Chris Kline Explains the Role of Bitcoin in Retirement Savings

The Future of Retirement Is Tokenized

In the final stretch of the episode, Chris painted a macroeconomic picture that was anything but ordinary. From institutional strategy to geopolitical disruption, he believes the next evolution of retirement will be deeply intertwined with digital assets—not just Bitcoin, but also Ethereum, Solana, and other alternatives.

“Not everybody can do the same playbook of Bitcoin. They’re only 21 million. So I wouldn’t be surprised to see some Ethereum and some Solana treasury-based strategies ahead”

While Bitcoin dominates institutional allocation—comprising over 60% of Bitcoin IRA’s $14 billion book—Chris noted growing enthusiasm for Ethereum and its revived staking economy.

“And Ethereum with staking coming back to life is also there. I feel like it’s kind of on a revenge run,” he joked, referencing its surge from sub-$1,500 lows to the edge of $3,000.

And beyond ETH, protocols like Solana, with their dApp ecosystems and low fees, are poised to absorb demand overflow from more congested chains.

But it’s not just a multichain thesis—it’s a geopolitical one. Chris sees crypto adoption following the contours of currency collapse and political instability. From Argentina and Zimbabwe to Southeast Asia and the African continent, he expects nations to increasingly turn to crypto as a hedge against fiat mismanagement.

“We’ve abused our currencies. We’ve printed them to death. And the rooster is going to come home at some point. And this is the reality on the wall..”

He calls this global accumulation trend a “race to reserve.” Sovereign entities and institutions alike are gradually buying in—not with fanfare, but with strategic stealth.

“It’s like oil or gold reserves. There are only 21 million Bitcoin, and over 19 million are already accounted for. What happens when the OTC liquidity dries up?”

Chris sees this moment as a setup for a supply shock event that retail investors and policymakers alike are still underestimating. As the halving cycle cuts miner rewards further, and as more actors chase fewer coins, the price dynamics could flip quickly.

“We’ve lived in a world of abundance. But what happens when we experience true digital scarcity?”

That’s why Bitcoin IRA is leaning into long-term tools: tokenized assets, AI-powered education, retirement scoring systems, and even real estate plays inside IRAs. The goal is to empower individuals to plan for the future in a system where legacy institutions may no longer guarantee security.

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